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13 ( Safety, Ken Schwantner, Gary Niemann )

June 08, 2026 • SWAPA

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Today's SWAPA Number is 13. That's the number of pilots on the SWAPA safety committee covering multiple departments. They all look at different parts of the safety world, but together, they refine exactly how we keep safety our number one priority.

So, today, we're joined by Safety Committee Chairman Ken Schwantner and Safety Committee Member Gary Niemann to discuss all the flight safety topics that are front and center, not just with us here at Southwest, but with the aviation community at large.

Safety Acronyms:

ASAP: Aviation Safety Action Program
IR: Irregularity Report
PM&I: Pilot Monitoring and Intervention
ERC: Event Review Committee
LRD: Load Reduction Device
PRSOV: Pressure Regulating Shutoff Valve
SRM: Safety Risk Management

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